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Commentary errors/bugs etc.
Posted by Steve Turner on Sunday, May. 22nd, 2022 at 12:05 PM

I'm trying to collate various commentary errors, usually missing parts but maybe also bugs, for Al to work through when he gets the chance. 

One that has been sorted was when the Setter attacked the ball out: it would show on the viewer and be completely missing on the report.

For brevity the viewer only shows the server and final action of the point.

If you spot any that I haven't posted here please do so.

Readers Comments

First up, CCT vs SS WGM: the first two points.
 
Report.
Wyatt Robinson (SVR - 16) (CCT) Serve - In [SS poss] 
Dave Dohm (2nd Best Passer) passes a 3 
Derek Harmon blocks Nathan Douglas 
SS 0 CCT 1
 
Viewer.
Wyatt Robinson serves [CCT]
(Derek Harmon-Rigoberto Torres-Derek Smalls) block Nathan Douglas
 
The missing Setter in the report seems to happen when a Middle attacks. I need to check others to find a common theme. The other thing is that it's a Pass 3 so that should be one blocker but the viewer mentions three. The viewer also shows three players getting blocks on the player table.
 
This second point is what it should be.
 
Wyatt Robinson (SVR - 16) (CCT) Serve - In [SS poss] 
Tyree Jamison (Worst Passer) passes a 3 
Aidan Beltran (SET - 15) sets (3) Nathan Douglas MB 
Nathan Douglas gets the kill 
 
Wyatt Robinson serves [CCT
Nathan Douglas gets the kill assisted by Aidan Beltran
 
 
Wyatt Robinson serves [CCT]
(Derek Harmon-Rigoberto Torres-Derek Smalls) block Nathan Douglas
 
Steve Turner on Sunday, May. 22nd, 2022 at 12:25 PM
 

This from match 19 MM vs SS

MM vs SS Second set

Report

MM 18 SS 19

Sean Lewis (SVR - 14) (SS) Serve - In [MM poss]
Ryan Dixon (Worst Passer) passes a 1
Kamron Savage (SET - 11) sets (1) Phoenix Ayers OH [SS poss]

Phoenix Ayers (ATK - 14) is dug by Sean Lewis (DEF - 11) with 2
Vincent Stein (SET - 11) sets (3) Clayton Holder RS
Roberto Perez blocks Clayton Holder Phoenix Ayers blocks Clayton Holder

MM 20 SS 19

Viewer

MM-18 : 19-SS

Sean Lewis serves [SS]

Phoenix Ayers blocks Clayton HolderQuinton Downey blocks Clayton Holder

MM-20 : 19-SS

The report and viewer agree but MM get 2 points. I've seen this before in one of my games but I'm not sure when. 

Steve Turner on Sunday, May. 22nd, 2022 at 5:40 PM
 
Same game third set. I've copied points either sideof the problem one. Shows report, score then viewer 
 
Ryan Dixon (SVR - 11) (MM) Serve - Out [SS poss] 
MM 21 SS 13
Ryan Dixon serves the ball out
 
Sean Lewis (SVR - 14) (SS) Serve - In
[MM poss]
Kamron Savage (Best Passer) passes a 3
Roberto Perez (SET - 14) sets (2) Mason Wood MB Vincent Stein blocks Mason Wood
MM 21 SS 14
 
Sean Lewis serves [SS]
Matthias Winston and Massimo Gianelli block Mason Wood
 
It's a Pass 3 so one blocker but the viewer has two different ones. When looking at SS blocks I couldn't get it to make sense. There was no BS reported.
 
This next part is ok
 
Sean Lewis (SVR - 14) (SS) Serve - In [MM poss] Phoenix Ayers (2nd Best Passer) passes a 3 [SS poss] Roberto Perez (ATK - 7) is dug by Sean Lewis (DEF - 11) with 1 Vincent Stein (SET - 11) sets (3) Massimo Gianelli OH [MM poss] Massimo Gianelli (ATK - 13) is dug by Kamron Savage (DEF - 15) with 3 Roberto Perez (SET - 14) sets (3) Kevin Scott RS Kevin Scott gets the kill 
 
Sean Lewis serves [SS]
Kevin Scott gets the kill assisted by Roberto Perez
Steve Turner on Sunday, May. 22nd, 2022 at 6:16 PM
 
This is similar to one mentioned earlier with a2 point point. It's Columbia vs Portland before they were renamed from Chicago.
 
End of the 2nd set it's 24-21 to CCT.
 
Leonardo Simmons (SVR - 11) (CHI) Serve - In 
[CCT poss]
Spencer Corbett (Worst Passer) passes a 3 
William Lam (SET - 14) sets (3) Rigoberto Torres RS 
[CHI poss] 
Rigoberto Torres (ATK - 15) is dug by Elias Fisher (DEF - 12) with 2 
Louis Reynolds (SET - 11) sets (3) Miles Hamilton OH 
[CCT poss] Miles Hamilton (ATK - 13) is dug by William Lam (DEF - 14) with 1 
Gavin Carter (SET - 12) sets (3) Rigoberto Torres RS 
Miles Hamilton is in the net 
Micah Graham is in the net
 
The viewer stops at 24-21 and goes to the 3rd set. The report jumps to 26-21
 
The common factor is a dig during the point and 2 blockers. I believe here the "in the net"  comment just means a kill.
However where the previous entry is 2 blockers giving the 2 points to the blocking team, here 2 blocker errors give 2 points to the attacking team.
Steve Turner on Sunday, May. 22nd, 2022 at 9:49 PM
 

Code fix put in for issue #1.  Will need to verify in upcoming sessions.  

If you use the report the fix I made will show up on a line like this:

Dante Gordon (SET - 9) sets (1) Dallas Hickman OH --Bugfix Serve.java 2022-05-30 to show setter and attacker on setRating = 1 
Allan Sellers on Monday, May. 30th, 2022 at 10:53 PM
 

I've spent about 3 hours on trying to find the issue with the "2 point jump" issue.  If you see a scenario where your team or the other team gains 2 points rather than one please post details here.

Allan Sellers on Tuesday, May. 31st, 2022 at 12:56 AM
 

So teams gets extrapoints against me. Olmec must really not like Squirrels

Christer Kallin on Thursday, Jun. 2nd, 2022 at 6:54 AM
 

Yes, Christer. Almost as much as Starkville and Dallas love to chase them.

Kevin Martin on Thursday, Jun. 2nd, 2022 at 7:46 PM
 

Not Santa Clara then? Or is it not all dogs.

Christer Kallin on Friday, Jun. 3rd, 2022 at 7:12 AM
 

Another to add

CCT vs ARL 4th set

 

 
CCT 9 ARL 8
============================================
Spencer Corbett (SVR - 10) (CCT) Serve - In
[ARL poss]
Calvin Schmidt (Worst Passer) passes a 1
Bradley Ferguson (SET - 13) sets (1) Calvin Schmidt OH
[CCT poss]
Calvin Schmidt (ATK - 15) is dug by Spencer Corbett (DEF - 11) with 3
Stephon Kurry (SET - 16) sets (3) Karter White RS
Jeremy Nichols blocks Karter White
Jeremy Nichols blocks Karter White
CCT 9 ARL 10
==================================
Steve Turner on Monday, Jun. 6th, 2022 at 5:01 PM
 
Derek Smalls (SVR - 17) (CCT) Serve - In
[BRB poss]
Jody Jacobson (2nd Best Passer) passes a 3
Iker Zubizarreta (SET - 17) sets (3) Max Dudley RS
[CCT poss]
Max Dudley (ATK - 17) is dug by Gavin Carter (DEF - 14) with 3
William Lam (SET - 17) sets (3) Rigoberto Torres RS
Theodore Harrell blocks Rigoberto Torres
Landon Fox blocks Rigoberto Torres

BRB 12 CCT 15

 

Steve Turner on Tuesday, Jun. 7th, 2022 at 3:48 PM
 
Iker Zubizarreta (SVR - 15) (BRB) Serve - In
[CCT poss]
Gavin Carter (2nd Best Passer) passes a 2
William Lam (SET - 17) sets (3) Derek Smalls OH
[BRB poss]
Derek Smalls (ATK - 18) is dug by Abraham Vigoda (DEF - 16) with 3
Iker Zubizarreta (SET - 17) sets (3) Landon Fox MB
[CCT poss]
Landon Fox (ATK - 14) is dug by Rigoberto Torres (DEF - 16) with 2
William Lam (SET - 17) sets (3) Rigoberto Torres RS
[BRB poss]
Rigoberto Torres (ATK - 17) is dug by Abraham Vigoda (DEF - 16) with 3
Iker Zubizarreta (SET - 17) sets (3) Max Dudley RS
[CCT poss]
Max Dudley (ATK - 17) is dug by Rigoberto Torres (DEF - 16) with 2
William Lam (SET - 17) sets (3) Rigoberto Torres RS
Max Dudley blocks Rigoberto Torres
Max Dudley blocks Rigoberto Torres
BRB 10 CCT 9

Both reported so I can check later for commonality ?is that a word?)

I've found an easy way to see if a double point happens in a game: total the scores for both teams and compare with total serves of both teams. There was a difference of 2 in the above game.

Steve Turner on Tuesday, Jun. 7th, 2022 at 3:51 PM
 

Found two things in common with all 4:

All involve set 3 but what is likely is that all involve the RS attacking. 

Three have blockswhich get reported twice.

One has a blocker error which I believe is actually a kill but as it's a double involving blockers this gives 2 kills.

Steve Turner on Tuesday, Jun. 7th, 2022 at 5:04 PM
 

Quincy vs Pekin Set 3 RS blocked. 2 points to PPP

Steve Turner on Tuesday, Jun. 7th, 2022 at 5:08 PM
 

One more for luck.

Quincy Carlsbad a few weeks ago.

Quincy Set 3 RS attacks BE in the net scored twice for Quincy.

I'll keep looking and will only mention it if other than a set 3 or RS.

Steve Turner on Tuesday, Jun. 7th, 2022 at 5:13 PM
 

Something else in common:

 

So far it's always Dig followed by SET 3 followed by RS attack and either 2 blocks or 2 BE.

Not common is the Dig rating nor the Setter (my L and S both set above).:

Steve Turner on Tuesday, Jun. 7th, 2022 at 5:25 PM
 

Other things I've spotted.

It doesn't matter if the RS is front row or back row.

The dig rating (which I believe is the same as the set rating in determining the number of blockers) doesn't correlate to who blocks. That is a Dig 3 can have the same blocker twice or different blockers and so can a Dig 2.

The report only ever reports one blocker when it is multiple. The viewer does report multiple blockers.

Steve Turner on Tuesday, Jun. 7th, 2022 at 6:03 PM
 

A big thanks to all of the analysis from Steve here.  I think I have solved the +2 point issue for this weekend.  We will need to verify!

Allan Sellers on Tuesday, Jun. 7th, 2022 at 11:29 PM
 

I went through every game from June 11th and compared total serves with total points and found no errors.

Actually I did MOD 5 (I think) just adding up units.

Steve Turner on Tuesday, Jun. 14th, 2022 at 9:35 AM
 

Thanks Steve!!  Please let me know if there are any you've found that I haven't addressed yet.

Tell me more on the "MOD" sentence above...

Allan Sellers on Tuesday, Jun. 14th, 2022 at 10:25 PM
 

So in this game I picked at random the set scores were.

Quincy (1) 25 21 24 20   17-9
Columbia (3) 16 25 26 25   24-2

 

Ignore the 25's and the 20 as these give 0. The 6 and 4 of 26+24 also gives 0 so that leaves 6 plus 1 = 7 -> 2 Quicker in my head than trying to add up the numbers to 182.

And the total serves were 91 for each side -> 2 

So no 2 pointers here. Or 5 but I never saw more than 2 in a game. 

Ot took about 15 minutes to check every game.

 

 

 

Steve Turner on Wednesday, Jun. 15th, 2022 at 12:30 AM
 

Soooo many words.....and numbers.....aaarrrggghhhh my eyes!! :)

Craig Bucknall on Friday, Jun. 17th, 2022 at 10:27 AM
 

Block reporting error 1.0-3

It doesn't affect the score and there's probably only a handfull, or maybe less, if people who read the Reports:

 
QRM 3 CCT 3
============================================
Emilio Alvarez (SVR - 14) (QRM) Serve - In
[CCT poss]
Wyatt Robinson (Worst Passer) passes a 3
William Lam (SET - 17) sets (2) Wyatt Robinson OH
Julian Bonilla blocks Wyatt Robinson
QRM 4 CCT 3
============================================

It's a SET 2 so two blockers. The viewer shows both  but the report only has one. In this case the MB. I think the other is the RS.

Steve Turner on Sunday, Jun. 19th, 2022 at 11:25 PM
 

Addition to 1.0-3

 

QRM 10 CCT 13

============================================
William Lam (SVR - 17) (CCT) Serve - In
[QRM poss]
Emilio Alvarez (Worst Passer) passes a 2
Ayman Solis (SET - 17) sets (1) Christian Prescott OH
Derek Smalls blocks Christian Prescott

This time a SET 1. Here only the OH shown. MB and RS missing.

 

I haven't found a correlation between which blocker is shown and the attacker or positions at the net. All I know is that it isn't always the MB in two man blocks nor the OH on three man blocks. 

As far as I checked the running box score always had the correct numbers.

Steve Turner on Monday, Jun. 20th, 2022 at 12:47 AM