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Who is doing Fit right?
Posted by Kevin Martin on Wednesday, Dec. 20th, 2023 at 10:59 PM

There are a diverse group of us out there with differring approaches to how we use CP for Fit (or not) in the opening session.  I'm curious about what you believe the "best" approach is and why.

Examples:

The "All In":  San Jose and Portland.  And including Columbia and Mendon.  Vick spent all 64 CP on Fit (16 on a Sr, 24 on 2 Jrs, 16 on 2 Sophs, and 8 on 2 Fr).  None on skills.  Paul spent 60 of his 65 CP on Fit (16 on a Sr, 36 on 3 Jrs, 8 on a Soph).  None on skills.  Steve put in 60 of 72 CP on Fit (32 on 2 Srs, 24 on 2 Jrs, 4 on a Fr).  Spent 11 on one skill.  Pierre dropped 44 of 62 CP on Fit (2 Srs, 1 Jr) and 11 on one skill, with 7 leftover.

The "Halfway":  Baton Rouge, Mike spending 32 on Fit (2 Soph, 4 Fr) & 35 on skills.  Pekin, with 40 of 73 on Fit (1 Jr, 3 So, 1 Fr) & 29 on skills, keeping back 4.  Quincy, with 28 of 74 on Fit (1 Jr, 2 So) and 46 on skills.  Alton, 40 of 76 on Fit (2 Jr, 2 So) and 36 on skills.  Cincinnati, 32 of 64 on Fit (1 Jr, 2 So, 1 Fr) and 29 on skills.

The "Dabblers": Nashville, New Orleans & Sheboygan, spending 4 CP on one Freshman each.  Starkville, 16 CP of 72 (1 Jr, 1 Fr) and 56 on skills.  Ames, 8 of 59 (2 Fr), 47 on skills.

"No Fit":  Carlsbad, Denali, Mat-Su, San Diego, Santa Clara, Tucson (making 7 of the Pac 8 teams).  Antioch, Kentucky, Merritt Island (3 SEC teams).  Arlington, Dallas, St. Charles (3 Big 8).  Burlington, Schenectady, Spokane (3 Big East).

"I have CP to spare":  Albuquerque.  50 of 72 spent on skills, none on Fit, with 7 going away to the poor and needy in other Olmec leagues (what generosity at Christmas while the rest of us greedy buggers kept it all to ourselves!)

And the "Mystery Spenders":  Tuetopolis spent none of their 55 CP on Skills.  And I can only see from the match reports and resulting Fit on the roster page where they would have spent 36 on players (3 So=24, 3 Fr=12).  Yet the CP/RP page shows 44 spent.  So somewhere, C-Ball either spent CP on a player that wasn't playing and doubled up Fit, or spent Fit on skills that don't show up on the main page, like Block on a Libero?  Similarly, Derek is keeping us all guessing with Manitowoc spending all 56 CP, yet only 49 went to skills.  The other 7 went... somewhere?  I can't see any Fit benefit, so the others either doubled up on a freshman who was already not playing (so already at Fit 1), or being spent on "invisible" skills and boosting his setters' RCV stats.  Really, I got nothing here.  Totally lost, as surely the diabolical minds of C-Ball & DP intended!

What are your thoughts about why you do what you do, and why everyone else is wrong in what they do?!

Readers Comments

Excellent analysis, thank you Kevin!

We were the "33%'ers" with our approach (or mayb its 28%'ers...we need to figure that out for the t-shirts).

I voted for ALL IN.  It is probably the best option but I can't bear starting 0-3...

Allan Sellers on Thursday, Dec. 21st, 2023 at 1:17 AM
 

the only alternative to not going all in is resting key players in S1 to get them fit and I found that results in a 0 3 opening session. No thanks to that!

Vick Hall on Thursday, Dec. 21st, 2023 at 12:12 PM
 

Some great insight Kevin, but I can't get past the photo.  Makes me laugh every time I look at it.  Am I a bad person?

Roger Mendonça on Thursday, Dec. 21st, 2023 at 1:25 PM
 

Let's test how bad a person you are Roger...

If you enjoyed the photo please watch the video that its from:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY2nVQNlUB8

 

Allan Sellers on Thursday, Dec. 21st, 2023 at 2:00 PM
 

Before I watch - was it a successful block?

Steve Turner on Thursday, Dec. 21st, 2023 at 3:04 PM
 

Is that real? And a Libero lifted up at the net can't be legal. Funny, though.

Steve Turner on Thursday, Dec. 21st, 2023 at 3:09 PM
 

I was able to rest both my sophomore libero and setter and will be spending 8 CP apiece to keep their fit at +1. The seniors that played the first three games are now the reserves anyway.

I think using CP on FIT for T7 is essential. More chance  of getting a decent run in the WGM = more games for XP and a better start in the conference.

Steve Turner on Thursday, Dec. 21st, 2023 at 3:14 PM
 

Ha!  Yes Steve I agree that it is probably very illegal! 

They have other videos with some of the same characters for other sports.  I think its mostly the guy getting hit in the head (like blocking all the PKs in a shootout with his head)...just a parody/comedy group...

Allan Sellers on Thursday, Dec. 21st, 2023 at 3:34 PM
 

🤣🤣🤣 yep, looks like I'm going straight to hell.

Steve, surely after the second hit you knew it wasn't real?

Roger Mendonça on Thursday, Dec. 21st, 2023 at 6:41 PM
 

I'm in the mixed bag zone - used 4 CP on a FR as I had 4 'spare'. Usually I rest all my FRs in he first session so they at least get the FIT boost from session 2 onwards and aren't as bad playing.

It helps to have 3 competitive OHs or MBs as you can rotate 3 of them in a 3 match session to rest the 3rd.

I have a habit of 'throwing' one session to rest the T7 players rather than use CP, the non-conference sessions usually get picked but that is quite late in the season. It's definitely worth the FIT cost on a game changing player though.

Roy Rolsten on Thursday, Dec. 21st, 2023 at 7:20 PM
 

That should read rest the 4th (OH or MB)

Roy Rolsten on Thursday, Dec. 21st, 2023 at 7:21 PM
 

I'm in the camp of "FIT doesn't carry over" .. It just seems like a temporary boost that you're going to lose at the end of the season. But if Steve does it, I must be missing something. 

Rob Peterson on Sunday, Dec. 24th, 2023 at 3:24 AM
 

Nice to see the different strategies to play this game. In the end, who will know what the best strategie is? It all depends on so many things if your team is being succesfull or not. 

Pierre van Rossum on Sunday, Dec. 24th, 2023 at 8:51 AM
 

I gained fitness in Session 1 by resting most of my best players. Couldn't do it with my top Libero because I only have two, so I'll have to use FIT on them. That said, I haven't finished my CP planning because I was traveling last weekend, and if using FIT will prevent me from completing my CP plan, then I won't do it.

Jason Halpin on Sunday, Dec. 24th, 2023 at 2:06 PM
 

Ditto with my setters.

Jason Halpin on Sunday, Dec. 24th, 2023 at 2:07 PM
 

FIT is huge in this game. I wanted to get off to a good start on my XP allocation, especially since I don't expect to win anything this season, so only threw a few CP towards FIT this time around.

John Holden on Sunday, Dec. 24th, 2023 at 6:24 PM
 

Thanks for this, Kev. I bet I did FIT coach a player who didn't play (forgetting that the inactivity would have gotten him to max FIT anyway, ugh). In my brain, I still can't get straight that max FIT is +1 here, when it is +2 in U1 and U2. Thanks again for catching that, I swear I won't miss it again!

Mike Cabral on Tuesday, Dec. 26th, 2023 at 2:32 AM
 

It's giving me FITs.

Phil McIntosh on Sunday, Dec. 31st, 2023 at 7:39 AM
 

My kids call an outfit a fit. I was half expecting some solid, statitically based fashion advice from this thread.

Mike Cabral on Sunday, Jan. 14th, 2024 at 1:58 PM
 

You definitely wandered into the wrong set of threads there, Boomer.

Rob Peterson on Saturday, Jan. 20th, 2024 at 9:14 PM
 

Bumped to the top for Jim

Roger Mendonça on Saturday, Apr. 27th, 2024 at 12:57 PM
 

I should have probably mentioned that if my best players need it, then I'll do it.

Matthew Fowler on Saturday, Apr. 27th, 2024 at 11:09 PM
 

This might mean some of us are unfit managers...

Phil McIntosh on Monday, May. 6th, 2024 at 4:03 AM