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Analyzing Recruiting Skills Results (aka "The Dice Rolls")
Posted by Allan Sellers on Sunday, Dec. 8th, 2024 at 11:40 PM

Matt Fowler asked a good question...how do I know if my recruits dice rolls were good?   I'll walk you through what I look at then the smart people (not me) can add to this for more clarity.

The Freshman

Go to Team Page, Landing Tab

I look at my roster and sort by Freshman.  What are their potential and what are their skills?

Recruits I signed and their specialty skills (if any)

Go to Team page, recruiting tab

Then I look at my recruiting class and specifically the prior season (13).

So all my players were "regular" recruits except for Esposito (Setter) with a Max SET rating.

Recruiting Ranges

Go to top menu, click Recruiting then Entry

Now you can start to see what the ranges are for each position/star combination and how your player did.

ESPOSITO - Setter

For example my 5-star, Max SET Setter - Esposito ended up at:

10-1-10-8-10-11

The worst he could have done was:

10-1-10-8-10-11

The best he could have done was:

11-2-11-10-11-11

So in reality he didn't get great rolls.  No 11's (and he had 3 non-SET chances).  He got the 11 SET as he's a specialty player (Max SET) so he was always going to get 11.

His potential is "A" though so that's why in the end I'm happy.

BALASO - Right Side

My 5-star RS ended up rolling:

10-2-11-11-8-2

Worst Case was:

10-1-10-10-8-1

Best Case was:

11-2-11-11-10-2

So he was a mix but 11's at BLK and ATK are his two primary skills (remember the order page for RS players suggests to CP - Right Side (RS) - ATK/BLK then SRV/DEF)

I'm happy with the dice rolls here.  

 

 

Share your dice rolls here and add more info on how you all anayize this...

 

Readers Comments

I just pray

Aires Martins Jr on Monday, Dec. 9th, 2024 at 4:29 AM
 

5 star L Noah Santana rolled: 10-11-1-2-11-9 Seems decent apart from nothing in the lesser stats

4 star MB Landon Hemmenway Max blk rolled: 9-2-10-8-5-2 Also seems fine

4 star RS Simon Poulsen rolled: 8-2-8-8-8-2 Low rolls

3 star OH Riley Gabriel Max srv rolled: 9-7-8-7-9-3 Mixed bag

3 star MB Kurt Anders rolled: 7-2-9-7-3-1 Mixed again

Well that's how I see it, am I correct?

Matthew Fowler on Monday, Dec. 9th, 2024 at 8:46 AM
 

Matt,

Ignore the 1s and 2s as they're never used.

L - I'd be happy with those rolls. 11 in RCV and DEF are excellent and average 9 in SET is also good.

MB - disappointing with average SRV and bottom ATK. His guaranteed max BLK helps.

RS - correct, he's rubbish

OH - very average. I would rather switch those ATK and RCV for the BLK and DEF.

MB - Meh but without looking at your team I'd be surprised to see him get any CP with your better 4* freshman. 

Steve Turner on Monday, Dec. 9th, 2024 at 10:44 AM
 

Columbia's dice rolls

Nico Stover 4* L: average with 10 9 8 7 (max is 10 10 10 9). And I'd rather the 10 was at RCV or DEF

Robert Kelso 4* OH (max +2 ATK)  average with 10 8 9 12 9 (I don't include SET). Swap SRV for RCV and I'd be happier

Lucas Rezende 4* S: very good 10 8 7 10 10. 7 is bottom for ATK and 8 bottom for BLK, but 10 SET is brilliant

Cristian Mata 5* MB: bad 10 10 10 5 is almost bottom in everything and the 5 DEF is immaterial anyway.

But 10 SET Setter makes up for everything as in season 15 I'll have SET 16 with MBs on ATK 16 and 17, RS on ATK 18, and OHs on 15 and 18.

Steve Turner on Monday, Dec. 9th, 2024 at 12:59 PM
 

That should say Season 16 

Steve Turner on Monday, Dec. 9th, 2024 at 3:08 PM
 

I always seem to get great rolls for my MBs - third A+ recruit in the last three seasons.  Less said about the other positions the better...

Roger Mendonça on Monday, Dec. 9th, 2024 at 4:09 PM
 

No complaints from the Swamp. 5* setter rolled 4 of 5 max, and 5* OH rolled 4 of 6 max. Two A-potential stars in two seasons' time, if we can find the CP to go around.  Backups this season are definitely only getting leftovers, and probably not a sniff of those until sessions 7 or 8 when the total CP tallies from set wins is settling into a firmer picture

Kevin Martin on Monday, Dec. 9th, 2024 at 5:01 PM
 
13 4     S    Nico Marshal 558 9 1 9 7 8 8
13 4     MB    Asterix Obelix 688 10 2 10 9 6 2
13 5     L    Wolfgang Beerman 730 10 11 1 2 11 9

Seems like decent rolls to me. 

Brian Beerman on Monday, Dec. 9th, 2024 at 5:41 PM
 

Not fair 😕

Steve Turner on Monday, Dec. 9th, 2024 at 6:17 PM
 

Although all those 11s rather than 10s means an extra 24 CP per player - that's enough to FIT three seniors or four Juniors.

Steve Turner on Monday, Dec. 9th, 2024 at 9:01 PM
 

I started a database to analyze all the recruits a couple of seasons ago. Might be a good time to revisit that. I'm firmly of the belief that Antioch gets screwed over every season with the dice rolls. While Al boasts (I choose that word very specifically) TWO recruits with an A potential, Antioch's recruits max out at the B+ rating. 

Rob Peterson on Monday, Dec. 9th, 2024 at 9:15 PM
 

Seems a fair Olmec-granted handicap that the GlowGuppies' and Tomatoes' players start a notch below some other unnamed teams where the managers have thus far rolled lower skills in the "managerial," "recruiting," and "team building" skill sets, despite top-notch scores in the second-tier categories like "provocation" and "match report self-abasement" and "Prognostication, a.k.a. The Kiss of Death"

Kevin Martin on Monday, Dec. 9th, 2024 at 10:10 PM
 

To be fair Rob, both of Al's "A" potentials were 5 stars recruits.  If you're only going to recruit 4 star players, B+ is about as good asyou're going to get

Roger Mendonça on Tuesday, Dec. 10th, 2024 at 11:31 AM
 

I'm hoping Al remembers my support here when it comes to rolling out KODs this season 😎

Roger Mendonça on Tuesday, Dec. 10th, 2024 at 11:35 AM
 

Roger,

What is a KOD?

Brian Beerman on Tuesday, Dec. 10th, 2024 at 1:21 PM
 

It's a very common form of oceanic whitefish. Like in Kape Kod.
Also: Kiss of Death, the Al Sellers speciality

Kevin Martin on Tuesday, Dec. 10th, 2024 at 5:12 PM
 

My OH is pretty good. 11-10-10-11-11-8. Again happy with my MB 11-10-11-5. 
 

My 3-star S not that good. 7-8-8-7-7. I can live with that.

Overall B+

Andy Shaw on Tuesday, Dec. 10th, 2024 at 6:45 PM
 

Thank you, Dr Martin for the translation. 

Do you mean Cape Cod?

Brian Beerman on Tuesday, Dec. 10th, 2024 at 6:49 PM
 

My 4* setter rolled 8 for setting...

Roy Rolsten on Tuesday, Dec. 10th, 2024 at 9:16 PM
 

Ha!  Yes, I know I "may" at times downplay my team...but Roy?  Wow!  Have you sorted by Potential on the Red Pandas?  No?  Let me do that for you...

😎

Allan Sellers on Tuesday, Dec. 10th, 2024 at 10:36 PM
 

I looked at my new recruits. More particularly at my 2 OH players.

A 4 star paid 360 RP. A free 3 star. Given the result I have questions.

Giardino (3*) 8 - 9 -9 -8 -10 - 4

Millar (3*) 9 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 8- 3

 I didn't think I would develop the 3 star in the new season

But the difference in level is small: At full potential 2 points  (80.5 against 78.5)

the 3 star player gained 1.2 points per skill during dice rolls. The 4 star only 0.8 points.

The 3 star is superior in the attack skill to the 4 star. Except that it is the main skill of an OH.

Millar was a good buy for the price. Giardino is disappointing.He is rated F+. But both players have the potential rating of B.

In the end I wonder who to improve (both but I probably wouldn't have the means....)

A.

 
 
Antoine Thevenon on Wednesday, Dec. 11th, 2024 at 9:12 PM
 

Difficult question to give a definitive answer to Antoine as there are many different paths to success in this game.  Both have the potential to be decent squad players but neither should be good enough to be your star man.  Personally I'd favour Giardino because of his marginally higher stats, and focus on recruiting a 5* OH this season - ideally someone like Woodruff in S4 commits as he is guaranteed to have Max Attack

Roger Mendonça on Wednesday, Dec. 11th, 2024 at 9:49 PM
 

I think you used all your great dice rolls on MB Giannelli this season Antoine.  

Good question on which OH to develop.  You are right it is very close.  Like Roger, I'd lean towards Giardino too, but it is close.  

While Fr OH players are the absolute most expensive players to improve (with 5 key skills in use on a regular basis), it might be worth running the numbers to see if its feasible to work on both Fr OH players. 

I only say that because they are B potential players.  Not great.  But not terrible either.  I think the problem might be not just this season with spending a lot of CP on them but also next season in their So year they still require a lot of CP care and feeding.  

So I'd be inclined to focus on one.  

The other angle would be...

Is this a total rebuilding season (which, as you know, is EVERY season for Quincy)? 😎

Or is it a competitive one?  If competitive I'd focus on 1 player.  If rebuilding or total rebuilding I might go for both.  Though that requires a TON of playing time for the Fr OH players and their low current skills (and yes they are bad now, but its not like the other OH players are within shouting distance of A level either).  

Allan Sellers on Wednesday, Dec. 11th, 2024 at 11:26 PM
 

I'm just wondering how far down to go potential wise for trying? Should main focus be on the As and some Bs?

Matthew Fowler on Thursday, Dec. 12th, 2024 at 6:28 AM
 

I'd also go for Giardino because of his RCV and DEF. I'd also only CP one of them but maybe check where all your CP is going to see if you have any spare. Two OHs all the way to senior will mean having to replace both (probably) in 4 years. 

Al is correct about OHs being expensive but Sophomores are as expensive. A freshman normally has 2 CP slots per skill (so at 9s that's 95 CP) but at Sophomore he's starting at 12s. That's 60 CP to get them to 13 and 39 to get three to 14. The other two slots would need 77 sets played to get the 26 XP needed. 

Matt: definitely the potential As and almost certainlynthe Bs. My Libero, Hinata, was only a potential C so I neglected him for long-term plans.

Steve Turner on Thursday, Dec. 12th, 2024 at 8:45 AM
 

Thanks for your answers.

I had an idea when recruiting this 2nd OH. But I didn't expect the 3 stars to be so good ;-)

Roger ("neither should be good enough to be your star man.")  you're right. But they will be much better than the C-level OH who are leaving me at the end of the season.

I did my additions. The general manager and the coach will decide on Sunday evening....

 

A.

Antoine Thevenon on Friday, Dec. 13th, 2024 at 8:32 PM
 

No doubt I got Olmec'd

Craig Bucknall on Saturday, Dec. 14th, 2024 at 11:18 AM
 

The recruits of the Mushrooms, all are 3 or 4 stars this time.

3* MB with max atk, signed for 240 RP
Eder Fonteles 8 2 7 9 5 2
Atk is max, srv in the middle and blk low, so average, but hoped for more with the max atk. 

3* MB for free
Thorsten Rudolph 7 1 7 9 6 1
Atk is again max, but srv and blk are low, so only 1 skillpoint less than the bought player. Not bad, but certainly not good for a free player. 

3* RS with max blk, signed for 324
Stephan Alpha 7 1 9 8 7 2
Blk is max, but srv is low. Atk and Def are in the middle, so at the end an average player.

4* S for 752
Mathias Toniutti 10 1 9 8 9 8 
An 8 for set, that is a bummer. But a high for srv, and blk, atk and def are in the middle. So just looking at the numbers he is average, but because of the low set he is a below average player.

4* OH for only 360
Fernando Ramos 8 8 10 10 9 5
A max for blk and atk and a low for srv and rcv. Def is just in the middle. Happy with the 10 for atk, but rcv (also important) is only 8. So also just an average player. 

Pierre van Rossum on Sunday, Dec. 15th, 2024 at 9:45 AM
 

You lost me at "I'll walk you through..."

Phil McIntosh on Sunday, Dec. 15th, 2024 at 4:20 PM
 

Phil I also would have accepted a "Rich get Richer" response...

😎

Allan Sellers on Sunday, Dec. 15th, 2024 at 4:25 PM
 

Phil, 5* average, 3* average, 1* one above, one below and one average 

Steve Turner on Sunday, Dec. 15th, 2024 at 4:37 PM
 

I really do want to know how Roy does it... Antioch has ZERO players wtih an A potential.

Rob Peterson on Sunday, Dec. 15th, 2024 at 6:55 PM
 

Steve or anybody, willing to do a quick and dirty analysis for TT? I am still trying to get my head around all this.

Mike Cabral on Sunday, Dec. 22nd, 2024 at 7:03 PM
 

I'm with Mike. I need a cheat sheet to make sense of any of this...🙂

Phil McIntosh on Sunday, Dec. 22nd, 2024 at 7:51 PM
 

I think dad is posting this to cover his butt because he always maxes out his 5* players. I think we have a scandal tbh.

Max Sellers on Sunday, Dec. 22nd, 2024 at 9:59 PM
 

Mike, I wrote something last night while waiting for the results and it didn't post.

So a quick recap: De Cecca is excellent with all maximums and a bargain price for a potential A-

The rest poor or below average as they mostly rolled bottom or average everywhere. 

A couple of decent players but only because of their speciality.

Steve Turner on Monday, Dec. 23rd, 2024 at 7:52 AM
 

Thanks, Steve, I thought a couple of these guys were better than they were, so I am glad to have the feedback early in the season before I waste CP on them. To that end, what's the consensus on players worth coaching? Knowing some of the calculus is roster dependent, does anyone coach B- potential players? B even?

Mike Cabral on Saturday, Dec. 28th, 2024 at 1:34 PM
 

I can't speak for the likes of Nashville with so many A potentials but here at Columbia it's needs must (potential given)

Niko Stover L Fr B coaching all 4 skills fully but Hinata that I recruited last season was too poor for me to bother with

Tanner Boyle S Jr B- coaching. He was a 4* that only rolled 8 in SET but was needed. He hasn't been fully coached in the past (ATK left)

Justin Olsen OH Jr B- maybe. He was a free 3* but needed but in this "rebuild" season I need the CP for my So and Fr OH's with B and A- potentials

Antonio Blackburn Fr RS B- Nope. He was free and just used for FIT.

Mathis Legrand Sr MB B. Obviously not coaching but fully coached before to B.

As for the Twisters:

Your Fr Setter isn't great but needs coaching very soon if at all. Problem is you're going to have to recruit another Setter this season and haven't shown interest yet. There's only 1 more 5* setter after the 3 already seen. It's either coach Peralta and hope for a cheap 3*/4* or forget him and bid big on a 5*. You can do both but a good Setter needs all 5 skills coaching and doing Fr/So at the same time could mean other players get neglected.

Pfaster you might get away with abandoning.  When the two Sophomores retire Pfaster will be a Sr and you will hopefully have a good Jr and So by then. But if coaching you must start this week.

Hamwaffle isn't great but better than Rodriquez - and MBs are cheap to coach and you can wait another 4 sessions before starting to coach him (if you leave DEF) and see how recruiting is going.

Steve Turner on Saturday, Dec. 28th, 2024 at 2:51 PM